tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post6295356203277731727..comments2024-03-27T15:34:33.446+00:00Comments on Another Arsenal Blog: AKB: the deluded railroading of debate1979goonerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-31067857055113727502011-06-07T10:04:43.226+01:002011-06-07T10:04:43.226+01:00Spot on and thank you for providing an alternative...Spot on and thank you for providing an alternative Arsenal read to the open sewer of resentment and entitlement that the onlinegooner has become.El-Piresidentenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-17458670682890882332011-06-07T07:33:35.852+01:002011-06-07T07:33:35.852+01:00I actually don't understand Nasri's statem...I actually don't understand Nasri's statements. He's been good for only half a season and he thinks he's good enough to play with Arsenal FC. He is potentially world-class but surely not now.He needs to reonsider his thought and try to progress in the footballing department which can best be done at Arsenal.<br />http://delhigunners.blogspot.com/2011/06/Shubham Goelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256806127846155639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-53825152654612080192011-06-05T10:26:52.966+01:002011-06-05T10:26:52.966+01:00Ty for the nice blog. We need more arguments and t...Ty for the nice blog. We need more arguments and thinking added in the post's then just hate and sarcasm. Critics can be nice as long as they are not simple abuse, but people dont know how to seperate that.Omglolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-55843509938052399582011-06-04T10:32:45.996+01:002011-06-04T10:32:45.996+01:00Ted
not sure what you're trying to say
i'...Ted<br /><br />not sure what you're trying to say<br /><br />i'm not saying arsene always knows best, as you put it<br /><br />i just think he's a fantastic manager who has made some bad mistakes recently, largely because he forgot a few basics and got a bit carried away with certain obsessions<br /><br />it seems that he has learnt from where he has gone wrong, judging from recent Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-83380895512092560972011-06-04T09:25:04.505+01:002011-06-04T09:25:04.505+01:00It is not big or clever to polarise the debate, ta...It is not big or clever to polarise the debate, tag people with an oversimplified label and then just try to force your opinion down their throats while holding your fingers in your ears whenever they dare express their own opinion.converse one starhttp://www.conversefr.com/converse-one-star-c-4.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-46194069852570356302011-06-01T22:11:38.214+01:002011-06-01T22:11:38.214+01:00Let me make one thing clear, namely I love Arsene ...Let me make one thing clear, namely I love Arsene Wenger. I truly think he has achieved more on a limited budget than anyone else in English football.<br /><br />However, he is in now on very thin ice. I say this as an armchair pundit, but as one of many who said that they were not convinced by Wenger's signings in the post Vieira and post Keown period. The names who replaced them have simplyTedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195190597835036529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-16135970289510412312011-06-01T13:30:02.687+01:002011-06-01T13:30:02.687+01:00I disagree.
It would be foolish to change manager...I disagree.<br /><br />It would be foolish to change manager now.<br /><br />Also it would be very hard to get someone better in.<br /><br />Moyes, yes a great job at Everton but could he step up? Only time would tell.<br /><br />I think you do have to be constructive when criticising, after all if you aren't then you can easily sink down to the easy whinging behaviour of the eternally 1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-4244204688025103342011-05-31T21:10:06.866+01:002011-05-31T21:10:06.866+01:001979 - i don't claim to know how to solve the ...1979 - i don't claim to know how to solve the problem. But i do see managers like David Moyes and Martin O'Neil and think they are (or have) achieving great things with budgets far smaller than Wengers'. <br /><br />Someone like Moyes takes a player like Tim Cahill and gets the very very best from him. I wonder what Moyes could do on a bigger stage. Arsenal probably don't have theTedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195190597835036529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-37069151238627882772011-05-31T20:55:38.839+01:002011-05-31T20:55:38.839+01:00Why has my post not appeared here?Why has my post not appeared here?marcusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-49462276234903538672011-05-31T20:41:22.872+01:002011-05-31T20:41:22.872+01:00anon 1734
you seem to look for what you want to s...anon 1734<br /><br />you seem to look for what you want to see, find it and then draw conclusions based on things that were never there in the first place, strange<br /><br />i am not agreeing with particular criticisms, this article is not about the validity of whatever criticisms have been mentioned, it is about one group trying to polarise the debate because they are too weak to engage in a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-22670213020477526432011-05-31T20:10:33.209+01:002011-05-31T20:10:33.209+01:00Some interesting stuff in this post and the commen...Some interesting stuff in this post and the comments above. The AKB tag has become shorthand for those who want change and as far as it goes, the tag is useful. As 1979 says, you divide and conquer - in the polarised debate you either accept that Wenger has to go or you are an AKB.<br /><br />What is perhaps more interesting is the depth of feeling it demonstrates about Mr Wenger. However, WengerTedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195190597835036529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-72676491134597561282011-05-31T17:34:33.570+01:002011-05-31T17:34:33.570+01:0079 Gooner
So you agree with their criticisms and d...79 Gooner<br />So you agree with their criticisms and disagree with their conclusion. That came across very clearly in your article. Not.<br />And this minority has got your shorts in such a knot that you feel it necessary to respond? Grow a spine.<br /><br />As to what must change i can only assume that you've not competed at a high level. The difference at the top is all mental. Mental Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-3803956211465241362011-05-31T08:49:03.585+01:002011-05-31T08:49:03.585+01:00winning the title or champions league is what I ho...winning the title or champions league is what I hope for!<br />C'mon fans we're a big big club and despite not winning for 6 years, we've shown what we're capable of this season.Imo we are the only team to have beaten Barcelona by playing an offensive game.<br />Surely the title's coming back to north-london next year.<br />Season Review: Part I http://Shubham Goelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256806127846155639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-61928980422212677322011-05-31T07:52:22.617+01:002011-05-31T07:52:22.617+01:00Kipmonster, 2214 and 2219 Anons
You have clearly ...Kipmonster, 2214 and 2219 Anons<br /><br />You have clearly missed the point of the article and by trying to justify the use of the AKB tag you simply make the same glaring errors that have been pointed out in the original pieces.<br /><br />Even if there are a tiny number of this 'Arsene Knows' group around who will not debate things then that still DOESN'T justify the use of the AKB1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-23100113430908652152011-05-30T22:19:48.403+01:002011-05-30T22:19:48.403+01:00anon
Using Denilson is the A1 bona fide Doomer s...anon<br /><br />Using Denilson is the A1 bona fide Doomer scapegoat. Even tho he has hardly played this season it amazes me how many time dense tabloid headline reading sheep use him in their arguments.<br /><br />Real high brow debate dude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-12316090901154872662011-05-30T22:19:45.966+01:002011-05-30T22:19:45.966+01:00A denial of denial. You must be blind as well as d...A denial of denial. You must be blind as well as deaf if you do not think the AKB are not out there or are a figment of somebodies imagination. Should we start naming the evidence? Try reading the Untold Arsenal for starters. AKB very accurately describes their position. That site refers to sites that criticise Wenger as "The anti Arsenal Arsenal" contributers frequently refer to otherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-64981284906964851492011-05-30T22:16:12.454+01:002011-05-30T22:16:12.454+01:00Kipmonster
I think you need more sleep, you obvio...Kipmonster<br /><br />I think you need more sleep, you obviously havemissed the point of this article.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-35695689977176149792011-05-30T22:14:38.760+01:002011-05-30T22:14:38.760+01:00AKBs are just as bad. Anyone who dares not conform...AKBs are just as bad. Anyone who dares not conform to their outlook is threatened with severe beatings and called 'silly' not unlike Hill-Wood.<br />An example is an AKB telling someone that Denilson is a good player because he trusts Wenger. Asked to justify his comments all he said was, 'I justify nothing. Your an idiot for thinking Denilson is a flop.'<br />nice huh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-3718711832667211092011-05-30T20:26:38.840+01:002011-05-30T20:26:38.840+01:00Good piece.
For me the whole AKB v Wenger Out ...Good piece.<br /><br />For me the whole AKB v Wenger Out 'groupings' remind me of the YesToAV/NoToAV campaigns in that they generally spout rubbish very loudly.<br /><br />I think, like most people, I'm pretty much of the opinion that frankly Arsene does know best, or at least better than me. If he were to leave tomorrow there would be a queue of clubs looking to drop him a few Lucasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-6329563434185058512011-05-30T19:45:14.268+01:002011-05-30T19:45:14.268+01:00AKB is a justifiable tag to those 'superiority...AKB is a justifiable tag to those 'superiority complex' who deride anybody who doesn't support AW 100% & dares to criticise aqny aspect of his management & state a need to spend in the transfer market. The immediate attitude is F.O. & support Chelsea etc. It's the AKB types who are most guilty of trying to suppress sensible debate & not the other way around.Kipmonsternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-56200885397631029162011-05-30T17:47:19.337+01:002011-05-30T17:47:19.337+01:00Anonymous 1708
you have clearly failed to read an...Anonymous 1708<br /><br />you have clearly failed to read anything properly<br /><br />if you had you would have realised than none of my pieces have argued for wenger being immune from criticism, far from it, if you were a regular reader here you would have seen a lot of criticism of various errors that we feel he has made in recent seasons<br /><br />the point being made is about a stupid 1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-53003612828608999722011-05-30T17:08:48.635+01:002011-05-30T17:08:48.635+01:00I really would like to see some either refute the ...I really would like to see some either refute the points in the original column or explain why Wenger shouldn't be up for criticism.<br />The same problems have been evident for several years now, we all see it. And yet the problems remain unaddressed. What else is one to think?<br /><br />The expectation should be that we win, not that we do well or try hard, that we win. Clearly the effort Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-13633918950971703482011-05-30T13:49:32.736+01:002011-05-30T13:49:32.736+01:00Danish Gooner
unfortunately you completely miss t...Danish Gooner<br /><br />unfortunately you completely miss the point<br /><br />this article is not a defense of Arsene Wenger, this is not saying he should not be criticised and has not made some significant errors<br /><br />you are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled in my opinion to slag off people who disagree with you and label them as something petty like an 'AKB'<br1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-70867854900895984882011-05-30T13:47:48.801+01:002011-05-30T13:47:48.801+01:00Danish Gooner, missing the point entirely and spew...Danish Gooner, missing the point entirely and spewing bile and retarded waffle as usual. Havent you topped yourself yet you uselss twat?Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-14803300464392301022011-05-30T13:46:47.755+01:002011-05-30T13:46:47.755+01:00Anonymous 1330
The point is that the AKB tag is n...Anonymous 1330<br /><br />The point is that the AKB tag is now being routinely used to insult anyone who doesn't agree with a small militant vocal minority who wants a certain thing and have a certain fixed opinion.<br /><br />Also there is more than a certain irony in the fact that this AKB tag was created as you say to counter this 'Arsene Knows' crew (?!?), I suspect those who 1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.com