tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post5532796146071368226..comments2024-03-27T15:34:33.446+00:00Comments on Another Arsenal Blog: Mark Hughes: breaking legs to win1979goonerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-75343629541151976922011-11-29T08:34:39.274+00:002011-11-29T08:34:39.274+00:00It can't work in actual fact, that's what ...It can't work in actual fact, that's what I think.muebles vallecashttp://www.muebles-en-vallecas.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-54714573309917976592010-09-22T11:58:50.449+01:002010-09-22T11:58:50.449+01:00I hope this Lady Arsenal is not the one who posted...I hope this Lady Arsenal is not the one who posted on ACLF, because I quite liked her!<br /><br />I have to agree with 1979gooner. And Lady Arsenal, it might be difficult to gauge just how dangerous a tackle is and what the intent is, but surely the solution is not to just suck it up and go on with it, the solution is to make sure that the players' mindsets change to realise that these Gooner Forevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-54019009036129328442010-09-16T16:07:58.065+01:002010-09-16T16:07:58.065+01:00lol never debate with a women...
never ending...lol never debate with a women...<br />never ending...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-76873726603312423412010-09-16T08:26:57.364+01:002010-09-16T08:26:57.364+01:00it's actually just serious foul play that is r...it's actually just serious foul play that is relevant but it's pretty damn clear from the rules and interpreting this with an experience of playing the game.<br /><br />studs up tackles and straight legged jump tackles are not grey areas<br /><br />the grey areas are more tackling from behind/side when one doesn't tackle in a particularly dangerous manner, because one can still injure1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-37491801992537887322010-09-16T08:22:47.495+01:002010-09-16T08:22:47.495+01:00just to say here are FIFA's rules for serious ...just to say here are FIFA's rules for serious foul play and violent conduct:<br /><br />"Serious foul play<br />A player is guilty of serious foul play if he uses excessive force or brutality<br />against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is in play.<br />A tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as<br />serious foul play.<br />Any player who 1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-61709731939544979172010-09-16T08:10:06.770+01:002010-09-16T08:10:06.770+01:00It's not a major problem.
To those who have p...It's not a major problem.<br /><br />To those who have played the game and have an understanding of what makes a tackle dangerous/reckless most cases are fairly straightforward.<br /><br />There are always grey areas with anything, however they are not a reason in this case not to deal with violent play.<br /><br />The mental state and intent are completely irrelevant.<br /><br />To me Arsene1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-3869373692119459512010-09-15T19:08:25.959+01:002010-09-15T19:08:25.959+01:00I'm not concerned with 'moral high-grounds...I'm not concerned with 'moral high-grounds', or other silly cliches in which you're keen to indulge, for example 'everything in life is subjective'. Truly cringe-worthy, and wrong. I just want you to debate properly; I took offence to your belligerent tone, and failure to address my argument which, despite what you say, is a legitimate caveat to your line of reasoning.<br Lady Arsenalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-40966182753017920152010-09-15T17:58:28.331+01:002010-09-15T17:58:28.331+01:00Lady Arsenal,
You're very skilful at spinning...Lady Arsenal,<br /><br />You're very skilful at spinning an argument without actually making any really solid points.<br /><br />I'm not coming changing my viewpoint, as you say 'end up agreeing with me', as you so modestly put it. I am just repeating the same old points of the original piece that you failed to listen to in my opinion.<br /><br />It's very easy to take the 1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-79759252326390460982010-09-15T17:16:13.162+01:002010-09-15T17:16:13.162+01:00Slow down little man, I know plenty of fellow Arse...Slow down little man, I know plenty of fellow Arsenal fans who agree with me. I came on here to have a debate and not only did you not address my argument, you were insulting.<br /><br />I never said that Robinson't tackle wasn't dangerous, you just jumped on that, perhaps because you're incapable of engaging in discussion. You heard only what you wanted to hear.<br /><br />Arguing Lady Arsenalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-87822349971179014032010-09-15T08:10:55.060+01:002010-09-15T08:10:55.060+01:00Lady Arsenal,
You are way off the mark and are cl...Lady Arsenal,<br /><br />You are way off the mark and are clearly not listening to what I have previously said.<br /><br />http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-v-Braga-preview-Abou-Diaby-is-ruled-out-of-Champions-League-opener-and-Arsene-Wenger-is-not-sure-when-he-will-return-article579419.html<br /><br />Arsene has some interesting comments which you are in clear disagreement with.<br />1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-34485822283261899772010-09-14T22:32:11.254+01:002010-09-14T22:32:11.254+01:00Hughes always has been and will forever be pure fi...Hughes always has been and will forever be pure filth.marcusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-51915026320758956842010-09-14T18:58:00.057+01:002010-09-14T18:58:00.057+01:00So basically you are criticising referees for not ...So basically you are criticising referees for not 'nipping it in the bud.' That's ok but, as I said earlier, there's a very fine line between honest hard tackling, which you condone, and overly aggressive play, which you don't.<br /><br />The referee's job is very difficult if he has to distinguish between the two. Robinson's tackle on Diaby won the ball, as did Henry&Lady Arsenalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-33073832342143255062010-09-14T08:40:01.454+01:002010-09-14T08:40:01.454+01:00The Premier League is popular because of the likes...The Premier League is popular because of the likes of Manu/Chelsea/Arsenal, not the likes of Stoke/Blackburn/Bolton. That is another mistake of yours.<br /><br />You also make that familiar error of claiming that the likes of Stoke/Blackburn have no choice, of course they do, there are many smaller sides that have done magnificently well without playing nasty aggressive overly physical football.1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-90193657048921072822010-09-14T08:39:38.433+01:002010-09-14T08:39:38.433+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-89031057078561594852010-09-14T08:38:46.212+01:002010-09-14T08:38:46.212+01:00You arguments that the lack of technique in Englan...You arguments that the lack of technique in England being partly because of wanting to win too much is nonsensical and a bit insulting to other countries, as it implies that they don't want to win as much!<br /><br />I have never said that the lack of protection from referees is the main reason for the lack of technique in England, but it is part of it.<br /><br />The main reason is the way 1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-4466909177150424082010-09-14T08:38:40.124+01:002010-09-14T08:38:40.124+01:00"Well I think it more far-fetched to suggest ..."Well I think it more far-fetched to suggest that the occasional hard tackle is responsible for the dearth of technical talent among Englishmen. You make it out like every time you get the ball someone makes a lunge to break your leg. I bet you're not old enough to remember the old days - look up Wimbledon!"<br /><br />If you read the piece then you would understand why I take issue1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-51895734616967475782010-09-13T23:59:56.919+01:002010-09-13T23:59:56.919+01:00To the first anonymous person (just put a name it ...To the first anonymous person (just put a name it takes 2 seconds!), great comment, but I've got to argue with you on a number of things.<br /><br />'It's a joke to suggest that the speed of the game discourages skill'<br /><br />Well I think it more far-fetched to suggest that the occasional hard tackle is responsible for the dearth of technical talent among Englishmen. You make Lady Arsenalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-70145823375783388542010-09-13T23:08:08.125+01:002010-09-13T23:08:08.125+01:00Things have changed. We used to be a sovereign sta...Things have changed. We used to be a sovereign state- an individual, autonomous country. We played how we wanted and sent the occasional side into 'europe'. It aint like that any more. We are now run by 'europe'. We have signed away our sov. in the Lisbon Treaty. We have no Magna Carta style constitution any more. Politically and sportwise we have to conform to Brussels. They Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-69510964984140711822010-09-13T22:51:46.916+01:002010-09-13T22:51:46.916+01:00Lady Arsenal with all due respect you are just pla...Lady Arsenal with all due respect you are just plain wrong. English football is held back by the crude and vicious tackling that some people call "getting stuck in" and the idiotic culture that values "effort" over skill. It's a joke to suggest that the speed of the game discourages skill... if that was the case fabrgas would have no time on the ball. Modric would have no Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-54143845114737039272010-09-13T20:58:56.090+01:002010-09-13T20:58:56.090+01:00I appreciate where you're coming from, and obv...I appreciate where you're coming from, and obviously I don't want players deliberately going out to injure! But I think the distinction between 'getting stuck in' and 'overly aggressive play' is very fine indeed. <br /><br />Trying to get rid of the latter will inevitably impact upon the former, and, like you, I think the high tempo physical end to end game is what helps Lady Arsenalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-48653479483412044372010-09-13T19:40:46.349+01:002010-09-13T19:40:46.349+01:00To paraphrase the Boss (Wenger, not Springsteen), ...To paraphrase the Boss (Wenger, not Springsteen), if you ask 100 people, 99 will say that Mark Hughes needs to get a Cherslap (Snap out of it!), and the 100th will be Mark Hughes.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618876073064128027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-49510605921439527632010-09-13T18:57:21.142+01:002010-09-13T18:57:21.142+01:00Lady Arse is just an argumentative twat, just igno...Lady Arse is just an argumentative twat, just ignore the biatch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-58350080073861740032010-09-13T18:10:26.529+01:002010-09-13T18:10:26.529+01:00Lady Arsenal, thanks so much for your comments.
N...Lady Arsenal, thanks so much for your comments.<br /><br />Now, I wish to break some of your bones and legs, or your children's, if possible in a game. You wont complain, that, I'm very sure now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-78817640681611747012010-09-13T17:57:47.644+01:002010-09-13T17:57:47.644+01:00Lady Arsenal,
I disagree. Our double winning sid...Lady Arsenal,<br /><br />I disagree. Our double winning sides were not cynical. They were strong, tough and fair.<br /><br />I do accept that you do need players who get stuck in, who press, who harry, who fight for every ball. However to say that we have to accept deliberate foul play does not have to go hand in hand with this.<br /><br />Anyway the main point is about overly aggressive play,1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-33752513683161133032010-09-13T17:42:51.408+01:002010-09-13T17:42:51.408+01:00Anyone who has played the game knows what Savage i...Anyone who has played the game knows what Savage is trying to say. You can't get righteous about it, that's the nature of football. You do what you can to win the match - pull someone's shirt, leave a boot in, con the referee, try to get your opponent sent off. If it works, you keep doing it.<br /><br />I really wish we'd stop acting like victims and accept that is the way it is (Lady Arsenalnoreply@blogger.com