tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post1524935684656781410..comments2024-03-27T15:34:33.446+00:00Comments on Another Arsenal Blog: A touch of balance1979goonerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-20414259185987632752010-03-01T22:04:15.689+00:002010-03-01T22:04:15.689+00:00Thanks for the comments above, the majority of whi...Thanks for the comments above, the majority of which are very good.<br /><br />It seems that most people who disagree with me are mainly interested in Stoke's training methods (I have no idea how they know how Tony Pulis coaches) or want to look at Shawcross' previous misdemeanours or his state of mind (which are irrelevant when judging what he did on saturday.<br /><br />Its fair enough Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195190597835036529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-14305374987450585432010-03-01T21:33:42.030+00:002010-03-01T21:33:42.030+00:00I think it is relevant to look at the mindset of p...I think it is relevant to look at the mindset of players who play against Arsenal. Sure, we can engage in a totally positive analysis of the tackle and say that it was simply unfortunate (in fact, one of the factors you forgot to mention was how high the foot was off the ground-even though studs were not showing, if you keep your tackling foot on the ground, you're not going to break any legsArthurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-65015554845404346342010-03-01T20:03:34.250+00:002010-03-01T20:03:34.250+00:00We're not going to get consistency in the medi...We're not going to get consistency in the media, sogive up on that one. It is remarkable how Shawcross' treatment differs to that of Nani, Gallas and many others. I'd like to see a rational explanation of why in one of the better journalists.<br /><br />Equally refs are not going to get more consistent. For too much of the game players do their best to con them, making it harder for Obsinhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17682633045526999412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-10729547757589312012010-03-01T19:38:38.050+00:002010-03-01T19:38:38.050+00:00It's been an interesting couple of days banter...It's been an interesting couple of days banter.<br /><br />I agree with Ted's balanced article, very well written.<br /><br />There are degrees of recklessness and Shawcross was at about a 3/10 for me, he deserved a red because he went in so hard but it wasn't that bad, by 'that bad' I mean compared to what we see week in week out that is far more reckless.<br /><br />I agree 1979goonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783799499006052572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-56129750385107068032010-03-01T19:20:34.011+00:002010-03-01T19:20:34.011+00:00This blog has been a huge disappointment in reacti...This blog has been a huge disappointment in reaction to this incident. VitalArsenal's take is much better:<br /><br />http://arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=517919<br /><br />Excerpt:<br /><br />"It is misleading to say that anyone is seriously claiming that the Shawcross tackle was malicious or made with the intent to break Ramsey's leg but it was most definitely made &#marcusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-86851439987969956112010-03-01T17:55:52.732+00:002010-03-01T17:55:52.732+00:00posted this on the the post before
Xavi Alons...posted this on the the post before<br /><br /> Xavi Alonso took out cesc last year in a similar challenge. his intention was to give the ball the john smith "ave it" treatment(maybe he learned from carragher) in the middle of midfield after over running the ball.<br /><br /> similar to what happened to ramsey.<br /> The guy lost control of the ball, seen ramsey was equally Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-89840053896194306872010-03-01T17:49:19.308+00:002010-03-01T17:49:19.308+00:00Ted,
while u are being more rational than 1979 yo...Ted,<br /><br />while u are being more rational than 1979 you are still not getting through to me when 'confuse' hard (sometimes rash) challenges as committed. Are you telling me that continental players are not committed enough to win the ball??<br />do us a favour and try to see where we are coming from too.<br /><br />keep writing..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-31247917975136251122010-03-01T17:32:40.388+00:002010-03-01T17:32:40.388+00:00I saw the images several times and honestly it sea...I saw the images several times and honestly it seams a misfortuned event more than an intentional one. They both tryed to play the ball. That's what I think anyway.<br /><br />Regardless the intensity I just hope Ramsey can recover as fast as possible.<br /><br />A similar thing happened a few years ago on a Benfica-Porto match, involving Katsouranis and Anderson (now playing in Man Utd).<br Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349676236281797771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-29852554203863883402010-03-01T16:55:27.353+00:002010-03-01T16:55:27.353+00:00Correction..Once again as i told 1979...Correction..Once again as i told 1979...Shardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-63999694965322802332010-03-01T16:09:13.082+00:002010-03-01T16:09:13.082+00:00Godge is right. Anyone who plays for the English t...Godge is right. Anyone who plays for the English team enjoys some immunity from any action against them.Shardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-65495322657195621562010-03-01T16:06:57.151+00:002010-03-01T16:06:57.151+00:00Once again 1979, tackling is also a technique and ...Once again 1979, tackling is also a technique and indeed quite fascinating to watch. But irresponsible tackling does not show commitment. I agree there's a thin line but yet countries like spain and italy manage to largely stay within it and Germany as well( which i keep going back to cos the german league is quick and committed as well).<br /><br />You are right though that the FA and refs Shardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-50330022472215886952010-03-01T16:04:46.510+00:002010-03-01T16:04:46.510+00:00I don't think that you can discount the fact t...I don't think that you can discount the fact that he has previously broken an opponent's leg. I would suggest that it is very unusual for a player (especially a 22-year old) to have broken more than one opponent's leg.<br /><br />The fact that he has previous suggests a number of possibilities:<br /><br />(1) The quality of coaching at Stoke is so poor that he hasn't been taught Godgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-56722350893204395612010-03-01T13:38:14.825+00:002010-03-01T13:38:14.825+00:00ReZnuk - yes, I agree. I think that is what I was ...ReZnuk - yes, I agree. I think that is what I was trying to say at the end of the post. I don't want tackling to be banned, but the number of heavy tackles in the game at the moment means that injuries like Ramsey will happen every now and again.Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195190597835036529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-50961579899086424052010-03-01T13:32:51.581+00:002010-03-01T13:32:51.581+00:00yes. Sorry. Dan Smith of Sunderland did Diaby'...yes. Sorry. Dan Smith of Sunderland did Diaby's ankle. Not Bolton.Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195190597835036529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-69129114430180292222010-03-01T13:31:29.278+00:002010-03-01T13:31:29.278+00:00The other point you missed is the frequency of suc...The other point you missed is the frequency of such challenges. Simple probability tells you that if you make 1 'heavy' challenge in a game, then you'd be unlucky to cause an injury - but if you frequently make such challenges, then the probability of causing an injury at least once, increases dramatically. That applies not just to one player (where you'll see frequent heavy ReZnuKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04486836189572293082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-57195360541402512272010-03-01T12:59:31.490+00:002010-03-01T12:59:31.490+00:00Erm just a wee point, diaby broke his ankle agains...Erm just a wee point, diaby broke his ankle against Sunderland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-63536452849138679422010-03-01T12:16:31.451+00:002010-03-01T12:16:31.451+00:00Stoke supporter here. Brilliant blog and bang on t...Stoke supporter here. Brilliant blog and bang on the money. <br /><br />I don't disagree that it was a foolish challenge but in the main it was an unlucky incident.<br /><br />Best wishes to Ramsey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-11012554222867571042010-03-01T12:01:33.600+00:002010-03-01T12:01:33.600+00:00One of the many questions you are missing is: &quo...One of the many questions you are missing is: "When a player has clearly lost control of the ball and an oopponent is likely to beat him to the ball by sheer dint of being physically closer to it, is the former player entitled to swing his leg with the force you might usually use for a thirty yard free kick, and in so doing delay the point at which his feet is timed to make contact with the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8328101106494598665.post-77992046767504587862010-03-01T11:40:46.899+00:002010-03-01T11:40:46.899+00:00Lots of talk when one's own player breaks a le...Lots of talk when one's own player breaks a leg, but much less when an opponent suffers. <br />The mis-tackle was innocent enough and if it was a Manchester or Chelsea player, the Arsenal mob wouldn't care less. They'd be happy in fact, judging by comments read when Ashley Cole broke his ankle a week or two ago!<br />Bad luck to the player involved and let's hope he recovers well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com